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Doug
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 Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 03:50 pm

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I spotted these moths en flagrante delicto on my front porch the other day.  I slid the pink paper underneath for contrast.  Together they were about 6 inches long.



 

Then I recalled snapping this one last year on the front bumper of my car.  He as about 5 or 6 inches long, as I recall.



Anyone know their moths to ID them?



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Can't ID them, but those sure are excellent shots!



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Doug,

Try this site http://www.whatsthatbug.com/index.html I sometimes have luck identifying bugs (insects) there.  Speaking of which, here's a picture of some bugs (I think they're beetles) we took on Culebra last time we were there and haven't been able to ID.

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 Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 08:27 pm

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Sorry, I pushed the send button twice.



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These kind of look like box elder beetles.  I don't know what those moths are, but they sure are pretty.

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It does look sort of like them but I don't think the pattern on the back is quite the same.:?



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Red Cottons? We have cotton plants.



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The pictures I can find look pretty close.  The Red Cotton Bugs are in Asia, Australia, Central and South America, and Africa - would that include Puerto Rico?  The host plants are cotton, okra, kapok, sorghum, millet, and jute.  It may or may not be them but I'm sure learning a lot about bugs.:)



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Abe this is just for you. A while back I was posting the
butterfly collection of Hank Golet to the CC site and there
was one that wasn't identified (it turned out to be a Hanna
Blue) In the process, like you, I learned aa lot and was
fascinated by this micro world. The most fascinating thing
I saw was this pic it is the head of a baskettail dragonfly.
Unbelievable but true. There also is another variety that
looks just like a monkey's face.

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LOL - thanks Jim



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Abe,

I thought you would find this article interesting. I saw it in the hotel "snippet" news that you get while traveling.

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Thanks Debbie.  If the experts at the London Natural History Museum are baffled, who am I to be chagrined at not being able to identify the beetles (red cotton bugs are the closest match so far)?



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After Debbie's link referred to an alder bug, I
remembered the "love bugs" at the old
BarbaraRosa's on the canal, I was told they
really were box elder bugs. If you think that
too, let me diabuse you of that notion I
checked they are two different bugs.
As to the ones above they appear to be
Cotton Stainers this is from whatsthatbug

Cotton Stainer Aggregation
(09/17/2006) Bug Stuff
I've told so many people about WTB......really a
great site...I keep meaning to find the photo I have
of the red stainer? orgy I took in Puerto Rico. I felt
a bit bad watching them, but then was strangely
impressed by their group prowess! Here is the bug
orgy photo from Puerto Rico I promised.
Dave



Hi Dave,
Your Cotton Stainer Bug photo is more correctly
an aggregation, as there are adults and nymphs
together. ......
This is a perfect example of why I find the insects
so damn exciting...no matter how much we know,
individually or cumulatively, we just dont know
anything at all, they are so darn diverse, there is
just so much to learn....Dave

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I tried to edit my post but I can't.
I want to e mail a member and now the
profiles don't work. I'm not sure I
understand the point of this. Community
Boards normally facilitate contact in
case we want to say something privately.

Now if I want to contact a member I have to
send them a "private message" through
this board's system? Is there any chance
other members have been "snooping" on
others' "private messages" ? I'm getting
a little nervous about this.

Maybe it would be a good idea to turn
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Jim,

That's it, that's what they are, no doubt about it.  Thanks, I finally feel closure.



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