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Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 11:11 pm |
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Just in from a very informed source very exciting news....make sure your voice gets heard and counted!!!
If you are a registered voter in PR you can vote in the Democratic primaries next Sunday. I think it is in the High school.
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 12:55 pm |
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Democratic Primary Vote Sunday 'til 3:00pm @ The old school & @ the new school (depending on where you live) Sample ballots @ Paradise & Butiki Gift Shops (stop in to see them to be clear on Sunday) Let your voice be heard!!!!
(thanks PS!)
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 01:13 am |
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Well, the Culebra tickity tack machine is rolling. We're pumping up the vote and can only encourage it by saying, come over to Paradise after 11 on Sunday for a bit of a celebratory time. We're celebrating the fact that we do get to vote! I could go into a whole diatribe about what it means that we can or what it means that we can't vote nationally (we chose to live here, after all!) or what some PR politicians are trying to twist this vote into meaning. But, forget all of that! I just think it's way big wonderful that we get to have a little drop in a big ocean of what may be the most world altering vote of our lives. And that is good enough for a celebration! (don't go off on me being an idealist, do go off on me having a shred of optimism for the state of the world at large...if there is no hope (on the big scene, on the little scene) there is no future, yes?
See you Sunday!!
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 02:23 am |
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I'll be there in spirit -- and I'm soooooooo happy for you guys that you do get to play a major role in such an important event!!!
Believe it or not, my car here has bumper stickers all over it -- but my favorite by far (well, it's actually two right next to each other) is "Vote" and "Don't Make Me Release The Flying Monkeys".
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 11:29 am |
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I want a flying monkey bumper sticker!!! That is one of the BEST (and if you've read the real Oz book, those monkeys are really, really scary!)
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 12:05 pm |
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If i can find another, it's on the way to you........
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 04:02 pm |
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| I've seen them in the Casual Living catalogue. A search of their website turns up only a t-shirt. http://www.casuallivingusa.com/default.aspx?page=product&sender=search&uid=651343S
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Posted: Sat May 31st, 2008 06:58 pm |
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I have a theory about voting, I think that most of us don't vote for someone, rather we vote against someone. I don't think X would make a good mayor, president, etc. so I will vote for Y. An ideal system of voting would let us cast negative ballots as well as positive ones. That way a candidate might win because he/she would have fewer negative votes than the other candidate. They couldn't say, "Oh I've won because everyone likes me or prefers me to be president." They could only say, "Gosh, I'm president because they don't dislike me as much as they dislike the other person." Might keep them humble!
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 01:46 am |
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Today we got some official help with some fancy schmanzy flags, banners, pins, even pencils! One woman I met was here from Maryland, born in Haiti. Very neat. I loved listening to her talk to her daughter in French/Haitian patois....beautiful! She was loving Culebra and Culebrense and I have no doubt will be a holidaying visitor in the future.
Here is a pic of Ann's store, complete with fancy duds, all decked out for tomorrow.
Voting is from 8 to 3, library at the old school and at the new school. Come out and vote for your choice!
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 10:01 am |
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Yes Abe I like your idea, at first I thought well, that
would amplify negativism but I guess it couldn't get
any worse than it is. One of the major problems with
our so-called "democracy" is the extraordinary power
of the media to shape our thinking.
My favorite is after a week of hammering the piss out
of us they take a survey and show the results as if they
had nothing to do with it, further evidence they were
"reporting accurately". It's like getting a dog in the
corner and kicking him until he snaps back and
you say "There, I told you he was vicious." Same
way we run our foreign relations, too.
"Everybody hates Hillary, her negatives
are too high" Really! for what? "Obama is an elitist"
and everybody else is not?
"Jane Fonda is a traitor" "George McGovern is a wimp"
"Jimmy Carter was a terrible President" "Dukakis looked
like dork in thehelmet" "Jesse Jackson is too divisive"
"Howard Dean's scream was way over the top!, really
offensive" (to who?) "You can't take Kucinich seriously,
he's a nutcase" (but not the smartest guy in the race?)
Great, a country that is evenly divided in hatred of
the other half. Somebody likes it that way.
And now that Kennedy is sick, every damn neo-con
Republican is saying what an institution he is and how
he gets along with everybody, and how he is respected.
So why weren't THEY hounded by the media to dump the
Limbaugh and Hannity hate-mongers, like they hounded
Obama?
in the 80's, when I was really active in politics, I was saying
"This system is not working, we are deadlocked, this
will go to revolution some day!". I still feel that way,
however today I'm gonna vote for Hillary or Obama,
just because I never give up and I want to help my friends
who still believe we can make a difference.
God help us, I hope so!
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 11:24 am |
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Short & simple - get out and vote! See you on the stoop of Paradise later if you like!
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 11:47 am |
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Love the picture -- Amy is here with me, and we smiled and smiled upon seeing it!!!!!!!
as a side note, I edited the last paragraph of a posting above because this past winter, we all agreed to keep specific politics out of the forum -- there are plenty of other places for that.
The important thing is for you to get out and vote today, and vote from your own heart and brain -- not what the media or anyone else is telling you.......it is important, and the results will affect you personally.
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 08:22 pm |
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Results for Culebra much closer than the
Big Island. local exit poll showed strong
strength for Obama with NAs and slight
Clinton edge with locals. Local turn
out was very disappointing according
to a local Obama supporter. Turnout on
big island very disappointing also where
currently Hillary is in the lead by a wide
margin. Obama turnout dampened by
explosive WAPA 6:pm show interviews
and the fraud charges against Gov.Acevido Vilá
Culebra Results:
pueblo......Hillary 31 Obama 34
2nd Dist....Hillary 55 Obama 80
total.........Hillary 86 Obama 114
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 08:26 pm |
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Clinton wins Puerto Rico primary but Obama gains delegates By DAVID ESPO and JIM KUHNHENN, Associated Press Writers
SAN JUAN, Puerto Rico - Hillary Rodham Clinton won a lopsided, but largely symbolic victory Sunday in Puerto Rico's presidential primary, the final act in a weekend of tumult that brought Barack Obama tantalizingly close to the Democratic presidential nomination.
The former first lady was gaining more than 60 percent of the vote in early returns, and a pre-election poll suggested she could wind up with nearly two-thirds support.
In defeat, Obama was on track to gain at least 14 delegates, bringing him within 50 of the 2,118 needed for the nomination.
Aides to the 46-year-old Illinois senator said he would clinch the long-sought prize within days. "We hope this week, absolutely," said spokesman Robert Gibbs. Montana and South Dakota hold primaries on Tuesday, the last of the primary campaign season.
Gibbs' confidence reflected the outcome of Saturday's meeting of the Democratic Party's rules and bylaws committee. Before an audience that jeered and cheered by turns, the panel voted to seat disputed delegations from Michigan and Florida, but give each delegate only one-half vote rather than the full vote sought by the Clinton campaign.
While the decision narrowed the gap between Clinton and Obama, it also erased the former first lady's last, best chance to change the course of the campaign.
A telephone poll of likely Puerto Rican voters taken in the days leading up to the primary showed an electorate sympathetic to Clinton — heavily Hispanic, as well as lower income and more than 50 percent female. About one-half also described themselves as conservative.
Nearly three-quarters of all those interviewed said they had a favorable view of Clinton, compared to 53 percent for Obama. One-third said they didn't know enough about Obama to form an impression.
The survey was conducted Tuesday through Saturday for The Associated Press and the television networks by Princeton Survey Research Associates International. It included 1,587 likely voters with a candidate preference; sampling error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
With 3 percent of the precincts reporting, the Puerto Rico vote count showed Clinton with 3,463 votes, or 67 percent, to Obama's 1,724 votes, or 33 percent.
Obama had a total of 2,068 delegates in The Associated Press count, including at least 14 from Puerto Rico. He also gained the support of two superdelegates during the day.
Clinton has 1,891.5, including at least 28 from Puerto Rico, with another 13 yet to be allocated from the day's primary.
Obama campaigned in South Dakota during the day, while Clinton was in Puerto Rico hoping for a victory celebration.
There are 31 delegates combined at stake in Montana and South Dakota on Tuesday, and Obama's high command sounded confident that enough superdelegates were poised to quickly climb on and deliver him the nomination.
There have been numerous statements by party leaders in recent days indicating they favor a quick end to the presidential race so the party can begin unifying for the fall race against John McCain, the Arizona senator who wrapped up the Republican nomination months ago.
And while Clinton's campaign said it reserved the right to challenge the decision concerning Michigan's delegates, Speaker Nancy Pelosi rushed out a statement Saturday night that congratulated the committee "for its good work."
The California Democrat has been neutral in the race, but also has been calling uncommitted lawmakers in recent days, urging them to issue their own endorsements soon after Tuesday.
Gibbs also did not rule out the possibility that Obama will seat the Michigan and Florida delegations at full strength if he is the nominee.
"I think any nominee may make some decisions at some point regarding those delegations," he said on ABC's "This Week."
McAuliffe, appearing on the same program, declined to say what Clinton would do. "We'll see where we are when we finish up Tuesday," he said. "Then superdelegates will begin to move."
He, as well as Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson, said the former first lady had won more votes that Obama in the course of the primary campaign.
Gibbs disputed that — and Clinton's claim includes estimates for caucuses in Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington state, where no official candidate popular vote is available. It also includes the results from Florida, where no campaigning occurred, as well as Michigan, where Obama did not receive any votes because his name was not on the ballot.
Clinton's campaign objected to the rules committee decision on Michigan's delegates, saying it had arbitrarily taken four delegates away from the former first lady and awarded them to Obama. As a result, officials said she may seek a decision on the issue by the convention credentials committee, which meets shortly before the convention opens in Denver.
Harold Ickes, a top adviser to Clinton, said on NBC's "Meet The Press" no decision had yet been made.
"I have not had a chance to talk with Senator Clinton at any length about it, and obviously this will be a big decision. But her rights are reserved," he said.
But one of her strongest supporters, Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell, sounded uninterested in a further challenge.
"I don't think we're going to fight this at the convention, because even were we to win it, unless it's going to change enough delegates for Senator Clinton to win the nomination, then it would be a fight that would have no purpose," Rendell said on CBS' "Face the Nation."
The Puerto Rico primary drew far more attention than is customary, and Clinton campaigned over two successive weekends.
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Posted: Sun Jun 1st, 2008 11:43 pm |
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Of course I wrote my family telling of the Obama win here and got an email from my bro saying on CNN they were saying Clinton won Culebra???? Of course, my brother is well known for pulling my chain. But do you tv watchers know anything about this or must I beat him soundly when next I see him?
We had a lot of fun and some fantastic surprises in getting out the vote, along with finding out we could actually get our bits together in less than seven days, which while next to the story of creation might lack a bit, but here I'd call it close to a miracle. 
While it was pretty obvious who the Obama folk were, we all stressed, better anyone than one who wants more war...and I personally am VERY content with the Culebra results, on many levels.
The posters and banners are put away as we have nothing more to say on any other level of this race, except to family and friends. And while the turn out was soft, I am just so thankful for those who stepped up to the plate of action, rather than simply words. One of the movers and shakers on the big island said he doubted a majority of people even knew there WAS a primary, and around PR, there were poll workers who closed up early due to lack of voters. Our workers were diligent, stayed until the fat lady sang and I thank them! One step, one step, one step gets us somewhere, when we can find and stick to a true course.
Now...we need to find something else fun to do! Idle minds are the internet's workshop...
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Posted: Fri Jun 6th, 2008 07:54 am |
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European TV covered the PR primary in detail (we are just back from a memory lane trip over there). Interesting statistic reported was that in Puerto Rico's general elections there is usually an 80% voter turnout, and in primaries a 70% turnout. In the one on June 1st for the Presidential race, the island wide turnout was only 20%.
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