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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 10:20 am |
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Bertha news, good for us, hopefully bad for no one, including Bermuda:
HURRICANE BERTHA ADVISORY NUMBER 17
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL022008
500 AM AST MON JUL 07 2008
...BERTHA BECOMES THE FIRST HURRICANE OF THE 2008 ATLANTIC SEASON...
AT 500 AM AST...0900Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE BERTHA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 19.3 NORTH...LONGITUDE 50.2 WEST OR ABOUT 845 MILES...
1365 KM...EAST OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS.
BERTHA IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 17 MPH...28 KM/HR.
A CONTINUED WEST-NORTHWESTWARD MOTION WITH A GRADUAL DECREASE IN
FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS...AS
BERTHA REMAINS OVER THE WATERS OF THE CENTRAL TROPICAL ATLANTIC.
IT IS STILL TOO EARLY TO DETERMINE IF BERTHA WILL EVENTUALLY AFFECT
ANY LAND AREAS.
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS HAVE INCREASED AND ARE NOW NEAR 75 MPH...120
KM/HR...WITH HIGHER GUSTS. SOME ADDITIONAL STRENGTHENING IS
FORECAST DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 25 MILES...35 KM...FROM
THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 115
MILES...185 KM.. |
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 10:23 am |
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Models (Bermuda is that little black dot):
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 11:33 am |
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A bit more out of SJ:
Even though...we are not expecting this system to affect the local
islands...detach moisture associated to the spiral bands of
Bertha...moving westward just ahead of the system...will arrive to
the eastern Caribbean by late this morning and then across the
local islands late this afternoon and during the evening hours.
Once this moisture gets here...expect showers and isolated
thunderstorms to affect most of the eastern half and southern
coasts of Puerto Rico tonight through Tuesday morning. The northwest
section of Puerto Rico will get the shower and thunderstorm
activity Tuesday afternoon.
Moisture trailing the system may affect the local islands through
late Thursday. Beginning Friday...typical Summer weather conditions
are expected for Puerto Rico and local islands through the weekend.
Next weather maker system to affect the local area may occur next
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Doug Charter Member

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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 07:47 pm |
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One more time:
"Bertha, don'tcha come around here, anymore." 
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 08:35 pm |
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 11:15 pm |
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What the hell kind of reporting is this? From the mouth of ABC news guy Charlie Gibson:
"The season's first hurricane headed away from oil facilities in the Gulf of Mexico, but strengthened to a powerful category 3 storm over the Atlantic today. . . "
How irresponsible to insinuate that the Gulf (and thus oil rigs?) were ever in danger! Just another way to excite the general public, I guess.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 01:25 am |
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So write ABC and tell them that. It's so out of order it's laughable in that way you laugh when you want to scream.
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 09:25 am |
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| It's not just the wildly off-the-track kind of story line like ABC and the oil rigs that bothers me. The Weather Channel and its ilk are constantly sensationalist in tone, even if the threat is a 20% chance of showers or snow flurries. As far as I can figure, they have viewing hours to sell to their advertizers and by being continually alarmist they get people to keep the telly on. Some day there's going to be a nasty result from this crying wolf.
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Posted: Wed Jul 9th, 2008 01:23 am |
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Bayberry,
You are right about the weather channel. I thought that I was the only one who disliked them and their scare approach to weather reporting.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 12:15 pm |
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Abe,
From Jeff Masters' blog at Weather Underground:
"By the middle of next week, Bertha should be headed towards the Maritime Provinces of Canada, and may affect them as a tropical storm"
Ack! Are you worried? I don't meant to be flip - if one came through here as a tropical storm, we would welcome it.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 01:14 pm |
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We had rain for most of June (seemed like). We needed 4 dry days in a row to paint the porch and couldn't get them until July. Now we have had about 6 or 7 days of nice, warm, dry weather and the forest fire danger is now on "high". Seems we can't win, either wet or too dry, nothing in between. So, the answer to your question is that some people would welcome the rain from a tropical storm (don't know about welcoming the wind".
I don't know if the news in the US of A reported the forest fire outside of Halifax a week or two ago. They had to evacuate close to 4000 families but only 2 houses were destroyed. We had a little fire in the woods near one of the houses on the lake (power lines blew down but didn't short out so started the fire). Luckily the families who live on the lake keep a pump and hose and managed to put it out before it got out of hand.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 06:14 pm |
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I was curious about the houses up there Abe, so I went to an online realtor site...man, if it wasn't so freaking cold there, you can buy some awesome places, even on the water (of one sort or another) for really decent prices! Key word is cooooollllllddddd.
Glad no one was hurt in the fires, but sad about the two homes 
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 08:47 pm |
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MJ
I would have to be crazy to extol the virtues of Canadian climate to someone who lives in Culebra. Heck, I would have to be crazy to extol the virtues of Canadian climate to anyone. On the other hand, IMHO it is the only drawback to living here (I have dual citizenship so consider myself qualified to make the comparison).
That being said, we (my wife and I) have the best of all possible worlds - spending most of the winter in Culebra and the rest of the year on a lake in the woods in Nova Scotia.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 08:55 pm |
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"...have the best of all possible worlds - spending most of the winter in Culebra and the rest of the year on a lake in the woods in Nova Scotia."
Exactly what I was thinking as I was looking at those places...but since that lovely scenario will not be mine (and truthfully, it's needn't be financial if one is creative enough - I know a great couple who use their sailboat that they live on to charter down here winters, up north summers, in some beautiful places; itinerant artists who do the same and I'm sure many others who have figured out a gig that works) mainly because I'm sun-warmed lazy, I'd rather be too hot than too cold...but visits can be good!
By the way, since this topic is about Bertha, she's breaking all sorts of records and behaving quite unusually. If you want to track a hurricane that can teach you a lot, she's the one.
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 09:02 pm |
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Abe,
Nova Scotia sounds delightful to me just now. Got another swelterfest here in Misery. 99 heat index. After reading The Shipping News recently, I gotta ask, is winter colder in NS or in Newfoundland? Just reading that book gave me frostbite.
Doug
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Posted: Fri Jul 11th, 2008 09:25 pm |
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Doug,
We lived in Newfoundland for 29 years on the Avalon peninsula (the far east of Canada). My wife and I differ on our judgement of the severity of Newfoundland winters where we lived. I did not think the winters were too bad since the temperature never got too cold. "Too cold" is the point of disagreement. They were nothing compared to the winters in Minnesota, where I lived for 3 years. My wife thought the winters were awful. The winds were indeed awful. We used to joke that the forecast was for 6 inches of snow whipped into 6 foot drifts by the wind. My complaint was about the summers which never got very warm, same reason as the winter not beings too cold, moderating ocean temperature.
The Shipping News took place in the Northern Peninsula which is much more mainland climate (very similar to Labrador) so their winters were really bad, no disagreement between my wife and I about that.
Back to your question - I can't do the comparison between Nova Scotia and Newfoundland because I haven't spent a winter here (we moved here when I retired).
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 11:18 pm |
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Well, this has turned into an interesting conversation while I was enjoying the very lovely weather of Brookfield, Connecticut at a wedding last night. I'm with MJ - it can NEVER be too hot for me. My closest work friend moved here from New Jersey 17 years ago, and she still complains about the heat. Go back, then, already!
I usually leave my frigid office and drive home with my windows wide open at 90 degrees and 90% humidity - people stare at me. 
Off to Puerto Vallarta, Mexico tomorrow - Gr8fldude was once again awarded a company paid vacation for meeting certain performance hurdles. Y'all play nice while we're gone.
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Posted: Sat Jul 12th, 2008 11:24 pm |
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Congrats to the Dude and have a wonderful time! We expect photos, ya know...it can't be ALL trippy trip trip!
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 12:44 am |
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If Admin will surface from (1) her Blues Festival where she is either THE or AN official photographer and (2) painting her house and (3) dealing with inflating and deflating the air cast on her foot/leg, she will offer comments about winters in Maine and in Culebra. You can temper her thoughts with my telling you that February and March in Maine this year were the absolute worst anyone can remember. AND Admin's heating system gave out early on and she had to wait three weeks to get a replacement.
Personally, I need all four seasons, but not in evenly divided doses. Ideally I'd pick one month of New England winter, two month of mid-Atlantic spring. two months of New England fall, and seven months of Caribbean winter weather....
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Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 01:09 pm |
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Bayberry,
Good mix. My Powerball victory itinerary includes summer/fall in Four
Corners/New England, Christmas at home or with my Cuban friends in Miami, New Years through May on a certain secret island in the SVI, Jazzfest (end of April-early May) in New Orleans.

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